Sometimes the best conversations happen after the session.
Cal and Kene sat down to chat about the new track they've been working on, life in Colwyn Bay, and how a lot of the things people see as negatives in music can actually become positives when they're channelled in the right way.
They also get into freedom of speech, where the balance sits, and what it means to make honest music without losing sight of the impact it can have.
No script, no big production. Just two people talking about music, community and everything that comes with it.
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